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@Bleukitty

i'm sure it's totally wasn't a war crime.

@mk

That's an oxymoron.

I was also raised catholic, abandoned them.
Still a christian.

@Bleukitty

"That's an oxymoron."

yes i know, but i feel it's the most acurate to describe me.

i don't believe in god, but i also don't believe that moral relativism (everybody is basically making up shit as they go along) works. i think it's a good idea to have unchanging common morals.

@mk
What is the difference in reality between you and the Christian, if you both consider an authoritarian ethics to be true? What, except god's say so, is the reason to help the poor, in conformity and intellectual and moral passivity, following his commandments, virtues without any foundation or validation (and without any sense in them)?

Why do you consider morality equal to Christianity? Have you ever consider why men needs values and what is objectivity?

@mk I'm not surprised to see the connection between all the great evils of the West and Christianity. You can say, as a joke, that Christianity respects the soul of man... When it tells him that he is a slave and a lowly animal, that he cannot know anything with his own mind, that he should abandon everything for his incomprehensible duty, and that he should leave the earth to eternal obedience and stagnation. And that is not all, there is so much more evil and rubbish.

@mk There is more evil than Christianity, but it all depends on it (or yet another religion).

@mk @Bleukitty Well... Why do you accept Christian ethics? How did you prove this crap? By the mode of your society, which consisted mainly of Christians? If you accept this ethics, and this ethics presupposes God, I'm afraid (it's only true because it's god's words; which even with any super-high authority has no logic nor necessity, because it is not a proof nor objectivity, to be obedient to force), how are you an atheist?

@mk @Bleukitty An atheist is someone who doesn't have any belief in God. Who has at least a slight possibility for God is a form of theist. For example, I'm a conscious atheist. Unconscious atheist is a very small child or some not very philosophical person (atheism at first is more primitive than religion, but in the end it becomes much more advanced and its true in any way).

@mk You can consider and find much new for yourself, under my pinned post freeatlantis.com/@IvanAristote
There I have discussed many interesting points about religion with @Bleukitty . Also, my story there is interesting to see why religion is wrong both in theory and in practice. This is my moral argument against it (there also you can find positives about true morality). Soon, I will present argument for true rationality, objectivity and certainty (and why faith cannot be good nor necessary).