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julian<a href="https://community.nodebb.org/user/panos" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@panos</a> brought up something interesting recently, which is that Lemmy communities don't boost everything (at least when viewed from Mastodon), but just the original post. I wasn't sure whether this was intentional (because 1b12 definitely specifies that everything is boosted, replies and all). The only explanation I can think of is that 1b12 boosts activities, and Mastodon doesn't understand that, so it's actually an implementation quirk that causes Mastodon to not actually see the entire conversation. NodeBB used to <code>Announce(Note)</code> and <code>Announce(Create(Note))</code>, and it meant that Mastodon was seeing everything. This was desirable from a synchronization standpoint, but it meant everything was going into Mastodon user feeds, which was <a href="https://community.nodebb.org/user/panos" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@panos</a>' concern. I think Guppe (which is kind of like 1b12? Not sure) boosts everything, but again, am not 100% sure.

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://anonsys.net/profile/caos" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">caos</a> Hattest du nicht auch mal ausgeknobelt, welche Gruppen in welcher Reihenfolge erwähnt werden müssen, zumindest von Mastodon aus? Also, erst Friendica-Gruppe(n) (vermutlich auch Hubzilla-, (streams)- und hypothetische Forte-Gruppen), dann maximal eine Lemmy-Community (vermutlich auch ein Mbin-Magazin oder eine PieFed-Community), dann Guppe Groups? CC: @<a href="https://social.cologne/@Agrippina" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Agrippina</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Gruppen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gruppen</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Guppe" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guppe</a>

FediTips has moved!The long-running Fediverse group service Guppe will shut down on 31st May 2023 if it doesn't receive enough funding to cover its costs:<a href="https://web.immers.space/2023/05/farewell-to-guppe/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://web.immers.space/2023/05/farewell-to-guppe/</a>If you want to support Guppe and prevent it shutting down, you can send donations through its OpenCollective at:<a href="https://opencollective.com/guppe-groups" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://opencollective.com/guppe-groups</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Guppe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Guppe</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.world/@Twitter_expat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter_expat 🧩(Fedi Resident)</a> @<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@maegul" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">maegul</a> @<a href="https://venera.social/profile/fediversenews" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse News</a> @<a href="https://venera.social/profile/hosting" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse Hosting Discussion</a> Careful, "community" may already have a meaning, depending on where in the #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> outside of #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> you are. If someone has spent several months in a Mastodon community (= server = instance), then discovers that there's a Fediverse outside of Mastodon, then decides to move to a different project which uses the term "community" for something else and another term for servers/instances, they'll end up confused. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> actually uses "community" in the sense of instance already now. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a>, on the other hand, uses "community forum" for groups (groups in the #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Guppe" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guppe</a> or #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> sense of discussion groups). The term "community" refers to the entirety of Friendica users, also because it's being maintained and developed by its own user community now. Friendica calls its own instances "nodes".

Jupiter RowlandI keep seeing lots of people who are totally giddy about the #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a>, who are gushing over it, who want to promote it, who want it to spread. And who want it to advance. To learn new abilities. To grow new features. That's all fine and dandy. But almost all of these people are still fully convinced that the Fediverse equals #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a>. And nothing else. At least not until Tumblr and P92 join the fray. Okay, maybe the #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=WordPress" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WordPress</a> plug-in that's the talk of the town now that it has become official. Okay, maybe a few of them have also heard of #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pixelfed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pixelfed</a> and/or #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PeerTube" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PeerTube</a> because their makers are all over the Fediverse. When these people are talking about the Fediverse, they mean Mastodon. And when they're thinking about the Fediverse, they're only thinking about Mastodon. Because that's all they know. So these people want new cool features or even new cool use-cases in the Fediverse, stuff that Mastodon doesn't have. They want Mastodon to have it, or they want new projects to be launched that have these features. If only they knew. If only they knew that everything, literally everything they propose has already been done. Yes, in the Fediverse. In projects which are fully federated with Mastodon. Why don't they know? Because they've never heard of any of these projects, much less what they can do. So they want "quote-tweets" in the Fediverse. Which means they want Mastodon to introduce them. Tell you what: Mastodon is the only microblogging project in the Fediverse that doesn't have quotes. Not only will Eugen Rochko never introduce them, but all the other projects have them with Mastodon forks #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=GlitchSoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GlitchSoc</a> such as being the exception. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> has them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> has them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MissKey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MissKey</a> has them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CalcKey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CalcKey</a> has them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FoundKey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FoundKey</a> has them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=GoToSocial" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GoToSocial</a> has them. The old heavyweights #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> and #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> have them, and so does Hubzilla's youngest decendant, the #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> project. Et cetera. You want "quote-tweets"? Switch to something that isn't Mastodon, and you've got "quote-tweets". Or text formatting in posts like bold type, italics, underline, <del>strikethrough</del>, <code>code blocks</code> etc. Would be great if Mastodon had that, in spite of other people saying they don't want it. Again: Pleroma already has it. Akkoma already has it. MissKey already has it. CalcKey already has it. FoundKey already hasit. GoToSocial already has it. Friendica already has it. Hubzilla already has it (look at this post at its source in a Web browser and weep). (streams) already has it. And so forth. This time, even Mastodon forks have it. It has been done. It has been done many times. It has actually been done before Mastodon. Next, long-form blog posting. We need something like #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Medium" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medium</a> in the Fediverse that isn't Medium itself. Mastodon's 500 characters are too few, and Twitter-like threads are inconvenient. Except we already have that, too. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Plume" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Plume</a> and #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=WriteFreely" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">WriteFreely</a> are about as close to Medium as Mastodon is to Twitter, including clean and distraction-less layouts. Oh, and Hubzilla can do that, too. By the way: Again, Mastodon is the only Fediverse project that can do microblogging that has a 500-character limit. Pleroma, Mastodon's oldest direct competitor, raised it to a default of 6,000. MissKey and its forks have 3,000 as a default. Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) have character limits of "go ahead, drop your short story in one post in its entirety," so virtually none at all. And yes, Hubzilla has long-form writing on top of that. Speaking of Hubzilla: Most recently, there has been the idea to uncouple one's online identity from a specific instance. Your online self should no longer be firmly tied to any one server exclusively. Now, this sounds so ambitious, it might just as well be science-fiction. What if I told you that just this very thing already exists as well? No, really. No, I'm not making this up. But you should know by now that I'm not. Better yet: It was conceived as early as 2011. By the guy who launched Friendica in 2010. He invented a new principle named #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NomadicIdentity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NomadicIdentity</a> and a new protocol named #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Zot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zot</a>. In its early stages already, even with no technical implementation yet, Zot was more powerful than ActivityPub is today. In 2012, Zot became reality as the basis of a Friendica fork which later became known as #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=RedMatrix" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RedMatrix</a> and, upon its 1.0 stable release in late 2015, which is still prior to Mastodon's initial release, Hubzilla. Hubzilla is still being developed and improved, and it has a fledgling but growing "successor of a successor" named (streams) which offers nomadic identity, too. Now, what does this nomadic identity even look like? Well, not only does it let you move your channel(s) around from instance to instance with ease and, unlike on Mastodon, with absolutely everything on it. No, it also lets you have your channel on multiple instances at once. Identical clones, automagically kept in sync in real-time, all with the same identity, the same content, the same connections. Your identity is no longer strapped down to one instance. Not only that, but your channel, your posts, your content is no longer hosted on only one server. This means that if one instance with one of your clones goes down, you still have spares. Okay, so how about community groups/forums? That'd be cool. Well, for one, there's #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Guppe" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guppe</a>. It's basically bolted on Mastodon, and in practice, it's centralised because there's only one instance. But it's impractical to use. Besides, this is becoming a running gag here, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) have exactly this built-in and open for the rest of the Fediverse. Better yet: There's also #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> which amounts to a federated #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Reddit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reddit</a> or #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=HackerNews" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HackerNews</a> clone. So not only does Lemmy offer this, it specialises in it. Hubzilla alone can provide Fediverse feature suggestions with "has been done" for years to come. <a href="https://fediverse.party/en/miscellaneous/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Not to mention what else</a> <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Fediverse has to offer</a>. Even if someone should want a free, non-commercial, decentralised, federated #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=GoodReads" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GoodReads</a> clone in the Fediverse, it has been done: #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=BookWyrm" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">BookWyrm</a>.

Paul O'MalleyFIND YOUR COMMUNITY! - GUPPE GROUPS<a href="https://c.im/tags/Guppe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Guppe</a> brings social <a href="https://c.im/tags/groups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#groups</a> to the <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> — making it easy to connect and meet new people based on shared interests without needing to know the specific hashtag that everyone in that community is using at that moment.By simply selecting to follow one of these group accounts, any post where they are mentioned will appear in your home timeline as if you were following the person making that post (even though you may not be). This is great for communities to form around a common interest. It also potentially helps remove spammers using popular hashtags from your feed as you don't need to follow the tag if you don't want to.And the cool thing about Guppe Groups, is that if one doesn't already exist when you search for it, it will be created automatically for you.NOTE: Just be sure to remove the tag from any replies that don't need to be blasted out to everyone. 😉👌Please <a href="https://c.im/tags/boost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#boost</a> to help spread the knowledge and if you like the content I make, feel free to subscribe to the channel.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UuEoJrKLGY" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UuEoJrKLGY</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MastodonTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastodonTips</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/FediTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediTips</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/YouTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#YouTube</a>

Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣To <a href="https://c.im/tags/Guppe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Guppe</a> creator,Something needs to be done with the following: 1. cross-posting 2. off-topic content 3. boosting repliesFor #1 and #2, I have no idea what can be done with those other than a constant reminder. Maybe add a feature for assigning moderators for these "accounts"?Cross-posting is fine if it's on-topic, but there are people cross-posting with 3 to 10 groups, and not a single group is related to the content.For #3, I think boosting replies should be disabled, especially since are cases when a boosted reply is disconnected from the original post, the context is lost in the fediverse.The original content should be more than enough, at least the context is easier to track down.

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