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https://spectator.org/the-masochistic-democrats-hate-you-and-beg-you-to-hate-them-back/

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis Look. This is just pure sloppiness. You have no idea what I think about the grab bag of cases discussed in this piece. I haven't paid attention to most of them. I think that sending anyone on an indefinite term to a third-world prison no one has ever been released from is something the United States shouldn't do, and especially shouldn't do without due process. 1/

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what process do you think is due? I think very little for somebody here illegally.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis Perhaps you can argue not so much process is due for ordinary deportation to a home country in which a person would be a free citizen. I suspect we'd disagree on how much process would be due, but that'd be a less fundamental disagreement. 1/

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you might be shocked at what I think. I don't think illegal immigrants should have every protection that a US citizen has. I don't think that illegal immigrants should have many at all. In fact, I think it should be legal for anybody to shoot anybody seen entering the country at a non legal crossing point. I also think if somebody is found to be in the US illegally, they should be subject to execution.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis i am disappointed by what you think. i'd like to say i'm shocked, but we've spoken.

what about people like Rümeysa Öztürk, who was in the country legally until, entirely unbeknownst to her, her legal status was revoked because she'd coauthored an op-ed asking Tufts to divest from Israel?

after Rubio signed the revocation, was she subject in your view to immediate execution?

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No, she was initially here legally. Ideally such revokcatios would give people 30 days to leave, before all protections are removed.

Also i said subject to execution, not automatically executed.
If any crime was comitted in additon to the illegal entry, then execution should be carried out. Or if somebody has been previously deported and sneaks back in, they should be executed.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis her notification was an abduction.

me, i'm not a fan of executions, under almost any circumstance. certainly not for a two-strikes hit of illegal entry and failing to hold a valid fishing permit.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis i'll do my best not to kill anyone, even if they do sneak into my house. trespass of a country is far less intimate and threatening to life and property than a home. a home invader provokes real safety and self-defense concerns that an undocumented migrant typically does not. 1/

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis why shouldn't the J6-ers, by your reasoning, have been shot for trespassing univited into the People's House? to be clear, i think that would be awful and dumb, and think non-violent mere trespassers among j6-ers ought to have been more leniently treated. but from all accounts, many Congresspeople legit feared for their lives, in the way one might during a home invasion. /fin

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At least one was shot. it was certainly a risk, although these were american citizens entering a public building, so it isn't quite the same.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis there are distinctions. but legitimately fearing for ones life is key license to act, even fatally, in self-defense. and there was lots of that fear. we are all fortunate it went down with as little loss of life as it did.

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I was there. Anybody that feared for their life was a nincompoop.
I did not, however, enter the capital grounds. I saw somebody I knew to be a fed, riling up the crowd and pushing them on and smelled a rat. So i turned to my son and said "something bad is happening here and we are leaving." so we left.

@Phil @jbouie @jeffjarvis i'm glad you didn't go in, but i suggest maybe you don't know how it felt to be a Congressperson hated by the crowd in the circumstances that prevailed inside. or Mike Pence for that matter.

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Mike Pence is a sanctimonious pussy and very self serving at that.

I saw them hiding under chairs when nobody was even in the room. Bunch of wimps.