@PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc @pamby1
Tomorrow:
- Numbers 4-7 (dry, but adultery test & Nazirite vow are interesting)
- 1 Kings 17-20 (Elijah/Ahab/ Jezebel; Mt. Carmel)
- Psalms 79-82
- Lamentations 3 - Ezekiel 1 (Hear a tune in your head with Lamentations 3:22-24; the book of Ezekiel starts off with a bang!)
- Romans 4-7 (The "desert." Also see 6:3-6 - it's a shame some people use 1 Corinthians 1:17 to preach Paul didn't believe baptism necessary!)
https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGESV/NUM/4?audio_type=audio_drama
@PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc @pamby1
I know I have hit this a couple of times. Baptism. Perhaps the most common and worst false teaching I can think of is that baptism isn't necessary, and that it was Paul who said so.
If I can help arm people with only one thing, it is the ability to take the double-edged sword of the Word to this killer of souls and destroy it... mercilessly.
2 Corinthians 10:5
@h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc I was christened as a baby because I was raised Catholic. When I gave my life to Christ at age 30, I was baptized.
Without getting into any debate?
I find this fascinating.
@h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc
@Horatio @h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc Through a series of life-altering events, I had an undeniable spiritual awakening when I was 30. But I can tell you that I had questions in 3rd grade, in high school, in my early 20's- never answered until I met a woman who was "on fire" for Jesus. She witnessed to me for a year. Never pushing, always there to talk. When something major happened in my life, I just new instinctively to call her. She was expecting my call not
@Horatio @h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois @sjc knowing anything. We met, talked, prayed & she led me through a " sinner's prayet. The rest, as they say, his history. Praise God!
@pamby1 @Horatio @h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois thank you, Pam, this was fascinating!
@sjc @Horatio @h53pilot @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois What's fascinating to me, is that God gas been "wooing" me my entire life. So great is His love for ALL of us.
@pamby1 @sjc @Horatio @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois
Yes. He seeks every soul. It's lifechanging when a believer discovers this.
@h53pilot
So strange. Today I was talking to my sister about baptism. I too was baptized as a baby like all Catholics. Well I’ve changed, evolved and do I now need another baptism? Call me nuts but I’ve solved my water drinking problem (I hate drinking water). When I read the Bible I drink a jar of 2 1/2 cups of water and I told my sister it’s my baptism. I’ve been doing this every morning and evening. My goal 3 times a day. @pamby1 @sjc @Horatio @PitchforkPatriot @LoveAlmonds @Lois
@PitchforkPatriot @KodiakIsland @h53pilot @sjc @Horatio @LoveAlmonds When I was a new believer,my pastor explained it like this:the water itself doesn't do any saving-it's an outward expression of an inward commitment.We should & must be bold enough to make a public confession of Christ& baptism does that.Jesus was baptized so why wouldn't WE be?I did it as an adult because I am was making a conscious choice where I couldn't as a baby. @h53pilot would be able to explain it better biblically.
@pamby1 @PitchforkPatriot @KodiakIsland @h53pilot @sjc @Horatio @LoveAlmonds There are many opinions on this and I studied the issue myself and I don't think the bible is all that conclusive on it. I personally do not believe it is necessary to be re-baptized but I also don't think there is any harm in it. I also believe that baptism is a sign for the whole church more than for the individual. I don't think the method or the timing is that important. It's the heart that matters.
@Phil @pamby1 @PitchforkPatriot @KodiakIsland @h53pilot @sjc @Horatio @LoveAlmonds
Baptism is important, and is essential for someone who’s believed the Gospel message. Mark 16:16 would be used as a proof text by those who say that without baptism, a person isn’t saved, but Jesus Himself said that “He who believes in Me has everlasting life” - John 6:47. I wasn’t baptized immediately after I believed the Gospel, but I was definitely saved as the LORD changed me.
@ajthethird @Phil @pamby1 @PitchforkPatriot @KodiakIsland @h53pilot @sjc @Horatio @LoveAlmonds
To insist that baptism is required for salvation is to say that the blood sacrifice of Christ is not enough.
@Timtoolman @Phil @pamby1 @PitchforkPatriot @KodiakIsland @h53pilot @sjc @Horatio @LoveAlmonds
Yeah, hear that! Also, I started looking into all passages that use the words (baptize, baptized, baptism). I've always been taught that water baptism is an ordinance that Christ established - as is Communion - and is performed as a public profession of faith, symbolic of Christs death, burial and resurrection.
And for the record?
Did not John the BAPTIST precede Jesus, in terms of being a Baptizer??
(And were they not related? Like cousins or something?)
Is to be baptized an action, an act, a choice, a feeling that is newly realized?
To Be Free from Original Sin is the reason for the act IMHO.
Catholic parents do it because they are saying they want this child to be a Child of God.
@melmc @ajthethird @h53pilot @KodiakIsland @LoveAlmonds @pamby1 @Phil @PitchforkPatriot @sjc @Timtoolman @cully45
@Horatio @melmc @ajthethird @KodiakIsland @LoveAlmonds @pamby1 @Phil @PitchforkPatriot @sjc @Timtoolman @cully45
I knew this was coming!
"And he [Paul] said to them [the church at Ephasus], "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” They said, “Into John’s baptism.” And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance...
@Horatio @melmc @ajthethird @KodiakIsland @LoveAlmonds @pamby1 @Phil @PitchforkPatriot @sjc @Timtoolman @cully45
"telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
~ Acts 19:2–5
John the Baptizer could not have baptized anyone into the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ... he hadn't died yet. He hadn't sent the Holy Spirit yet... to indwell upon baptism. Se Acts 2:38.