THREAD:
The Hunt for Red October…in the Taiwan Straight
for @nchia @justhuman @aquanaut642
There was excellent collaboration on a thread that I wrote earlier. I have all three of you to thank for getting me to think a little harder on this topic.
To recap:
USS Connecticut hit…something underwater. It was a high speed collision. Now that Connecticut is in dry dock, NO ONE is allowed near her.
PCC aircraft went nuts just about the same time, and flew racetrack patterns over an area of sea just south of Taiwan
The USS Carl Vinson and the HMS Queen Elizabeth were also just south of the CCP air activity.
@aquanaut642 spent some time in the submarine community. He postulated that the Connecticut may have hit a drone.
Let’s bring some things together.
After the US pulled out of Afghanistan, the rare earth minerals under those mountains were up for grabs. China steps in? - that was a logical conclusion. China corners the rare earth mineral market.
Russia would like to claw some of that market away from China.
https://www.mining.com/web/russia-has-1-5bn-plan-to-dent-chinas-rare-earth-dominance/
John Durham is investigating the Clinton campaign…and we know Russia was involved with the Clintons, and the Obamas. (Uranium One anybody?) This could drop at any time.
We also know that the neofascists/deep state would benefit from a war between the USA and China - it would collapse the economy and allow them to implement the great reset. A war would also distract the public from the mishaps of the Biden administration, the vote fraud audits, the vaccine mandates, and the corruption investigations.
A war would permanently shift the narrative to one where the neofascists have control - and allow another round of liberty restricting policies…to keep everyone “safe” of course.
Let’s talk about unmanned underwater vehicles for a minute.
Meet Poseidon
Poseidon is a nuclear propelled, nuclear or conventionally armed drone the size of a city bus.
It incorporates stealth and quieting technology in order to evade detection. The quieting work is so good that a Virginia class sub would have to close to 1,700 meters before she could detect Poseidon.
And that’s with Poseidon clipping along at 20 knots.
Poseidon can dive deep, greater than 3,000 feet. This puts it safe from most torpedoes and submarines - they can’t dive deep enough.
If you manage to find Poseidon, attacking it with torpedos is difficult, as design work has been done to frustrate tracking it with active sonar.
Sonars have two modes: passive and active. Passive sonar let’s you hear very quiet sounds underwater. Active sonar is a sound pulse that comes from a sub. It works like radar, reflecting off objects underwater. It also lets every sub in the area know where the sonar pulse came from.
Poseidon is built to defeat both.
Lastly, Poseidon is FAST. Normally it just putters along, but when it reaches attack position or has been detected, Poseidon can use super cavitation propulsion to sprint up to 100 knots. That’s 115 mph, UNDERWATER.
This is what I think might have happened.
I’ll remind everyone that this is a guess, and there’s no way to prove it - however, this guess would weave together the events that happened in the South China Sea in very early October.
Here’s what was supposed to happen:
I think Obama/Clinton, concerned about Durham and desperate to cling onto power, called in all their favors to Russia, promising them the sole superpower status, cornering the oil and gas market, and cornering the rare earth mineral market.
All Russia had to do was send Poseidon after the USS Carl Vinson - and sink her.
There’s a few variants of the Poseidon drone, but the one I’m interested in is the one built to attack carrier groups, the one with the super cavitation propulsion
Poseidon would loiter around 2,000 meters off the carrier group and when the order is given, sprint in at 115 mph and detonate her warhead
If Poseidon detonated under the keel of the Carl Vinson - the explosion would break her in two and she would sink very fast, with few survivors
China would get the blame, and war would break out
A war in the pacific would allow the economy to collapse and the great reset to be fully implemented - as long as a policy could be tied to “war security” the neofascists would get anything they wanted.
Do you know anyone in the crew of the USS Carl Vinson? The EVIL of these people is unfathomable.
But that didn’t happen.
I also think US Naval Intelligence caught wind of this - and set up a trap to catch Poseidon.
Somehow, they got Poseidon to sail down the Taiwan Straight - possibly following the HMS Richmond as it sailed through the straight on September 27, 2021 - hoping that Richmond would lead Poseidon back to the Carl Vinson. The Taiwan Straight would also negate Poseidon’s depth advantage, as the majority of the straight is shallow - 490’ deep. I’ll remind everyone that Seawolf-class subs are built to operate in littoral waters - just like these.
At the south end of the straight, Submarine Development Squadron 5 was waiting for Poseidon, ready to spring the trap.
Connecticut is commanded by a man with UUV experience. Connecticut is also attached to a “special projects” squadron (hot rodded submarines) - just what you’d want to hunt down a super weapon. His job was to find the Poseidon with the support of several other subs.
I think the squadron found Poseidon on 10/1. And they sank it around 10/2-10/4 - USS Connecticut was damaged during the battle. She either accidentally ran into Poseidon, or Poseidon rammed her.
(This would also explain why NO ONE is allowed near the USS Connecticut while she’s in dry dock. Poseidon is nuclear powered - if Poseidon rammed Connecticut and the reactor core was breached, that part of the ship would be contaminated.)
Someone told China, and China sent aircraft to assist. The fighters and bomber flights were a distraction - to cover the Y-8 ASW aircraft flights. This also provided an excuse for the US to send P8 ASW aircraft and RC-135 Rivet joint Into the area. There were a LOT of ASW assets in the area in a small patch of ocean.
Notice how the flights were between the Carl Vinson carrier group and Taiwan? It’s almost as if they were GUARDING the carrier group.
Do you also notice they’re flying right where the water starts to get deep?
The devolution angle:
Who told China that they were getting set up?
I think Biden did.
I think Trump flipped Biden long ago. I think Biden was offered immunity for himself and for his family. In return, Biden was to act as a custodian to the office of the President, and also to frustrate the plans of the neofascists. His job is to stay in the Oval Office (for now) - and not do anything. From time to time, Trump or one of the people in the military are going to ask Biden to do something - Biden is to obey, no questions asked.
It seems all Biden has done so far is to frustrate China and to tarnish the reputation of the Democrats - all the while uniting Americans under a pro-freedom, pro-constitution banner.
I said earlier that Biden was the worst bet the Chinese have ever made. I also think Trump knew about the cheating the Democrats were going to try in the 2020 election. What better way to counter that but to install your agent as the lead Democrat candidate?
No matter who was elected, Trump wins.
Biden tipped off China that they were getting set up by Russia and Obama/Clinton to take the fall for an attack on the USS Carl Vinson. China might want the US hobbled, but they don’t want to have to fight a war only to see Russia emerge as the dominant world power. A war also threatens China’s agent - Biden…now Trump’s double agent.
In his thread a day ago, @Andre said that we were witnessing WW3.
https://freeatlantis.com/@Andre/107073782304458838
If so, we just saw a MAJOR naval engagement…and no one saw a thing!
I’ll stress again that this is a guess. But if I’m right, we just saw “The Hunt for Red October” play out for real.
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ADDENDUM:
@nchia one more thing - thank you for allowing speculation and educated guesses on this forum.
A thread like this would never be tolerated on SQV.
I think that deserves mention, and a thank you.
A lot to unpack! A couple of questions.
How does Poseidon get to the South China Sea?
It's really that "easy" to take down the Carl Vinson?
So China was "looking" for Poseidon, from the air, independent of the Connecticut?
1. It’s a drone with a nuclear power plant. To get to the South China Sea, all it needs is time
2. Yes. You detonate enough explosive under the keel of a ship, you’ll break her back and she’ll split in two and sink. The Poseidon’s speed will be very hard to defend against
3. We don’t know.
Have to say the Obama/Clinton angle is hard to swallow, but not necessarily the DS part. They could easily suggest that to Russia and blame O/C.
As for Biden flipping, I'd also find that hard to accept, unless it was communicated as if it came from Biden. I don't believe he's faking his senility.
But...
@MusicAndFiction @nchia @SLAG
One small tell...if Biden actually has dementia he would be far more unmanageable.
Why the constant use of a teleprompter then?
Maybe because he's acting and has to follow a precise script to avoid blowing everything up?
Pretty sure the Mueller dementia rumblings are the same type of strategic deception.
Dementia storyline is the perfect way to lower expectations and distract from what is really happening.
@CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
I think both Mueller and Biden don't have it altogether.
For someone who tends to screw it up even when he was of sound(er) mind, I honestly can't see how you could rely on him.
But, just because I don't see it doesn't mean it can't be true.
@nchia @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
Biden has always been an idiot!
@nchia @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
If we believe Trump saying I/we caught them all is true, then facing punishment for treason, among many other illegal acts, would be quite a motivator and incentive.
@Ashley @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
There’s a difference between knowing they did it, and proving they did it.
“Did you eat the cookie?”
“No…”
@nchia @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
The overwhelming desire to know the truth and live to see it proved. At least we are in good company.
@Ashley @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG
I SO want it be proven!
@Ashley @nchia @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG How can he let Biden off when he’s been so corrupt for so long?? He has profited off the US and other countries for so long. No mercy!
@Kat @Ashley @nchia @CONSERVATARIAN @MusicAndFiction @SLAG I am not at all minimizing your concern. I am also not saying I believe that Biden has been turned. I'm not at all certain either way. I will contribute this. We are at war. It is an unconventional war. One that affects the entire world. I can see letting a small fry like Biden getting unconventional terms. Ultimately he will not actually get off. Remember that EO about treasury freezing and taking wealth of those who practice treason?
Agree. Have always had a nagging thought that it could be an act since beginning of apparent Biden dementia; but so many speculative thoughts running through my mind as to why. Then so many other stories negating it being an an act and is reality.
What you posted makes sense and has helped.
@Ashley @CONSERVATARIAN @SLAG great thread. It all fits together certainly and even if Biden hadn't flipped he may have told China when he found out (or someone on his team) in order to be a good bought and paid for operative. It works that way too.
@CONSERVATARIAN
Come on folks…..have you not seen the pictures? This Biden is not the same Biden. Period. Earlobes etc. he did not flip. It’s a well maybe he did but this biden is not the same guy. Period
@MusicAndFiction @nchia @SLAG
I don't sense Biden is play acting at being dumb as a rock. He couldn't remember the game and surely would blather something.
3 people cannot keep a secret for very long.
He's been pretty good at keeping his grift and traitorous acts quiet for years tho, even though some just want to not talk about it.
@SLAG Biden being Trumps bitch sure would explain him not being aware at all or at least complicit in the armed forces / navy doing the exact opposite of what you think he would want
@SLAG it would also explain why Trump is cool as a cucumber while we’re all pulling out our hair. Then the question could also be, is he fucking yo policy on purpose?
There is a reason our submarine force is called the "Silent Service".
Like an Iceberg, what comes out into the open is only a small glimpse of what is there. Over the years, books have reveal some aspects of the business, but they are mostly from the Cold War Era. Tom Clancy's books give good fictional accounts of operations.
Well researched. (except for Jones the Sonar Op. in HFRO)
Sub Movies OTOH...
When a Submarine submerges, the crew goes to war! Been like this since the 50's.
Great Thread!!!
Man-o-Man do I hope you are right.
I haven't been thinking "Big" enough on this incident. Information moving at the speed of light.
You do Anons proud with the research and the "Dot Connecting"
Your dots are definitely not showing a "Thanksgiving Turkey".
Keep Charging!
@SLAG
You are a terrific writer.
This is extremely fascinating (and heartening).
Thanks for yet another terrific thread!
Feels weird, huh?
I'm just a passenger. The founders you should be thanking are @Andre, @Bryan and @surferistic.
Really appreciate your insights tho.
Thank you.
Thank you for allowing speculation and freedom of thought.
I appreciate it and so do many others.
@justhuman is mentioning your threads literally right now. Please join if you could
Ditto! And great thread. Interesting perspective. Look forward to the guys responses and opinions.
@SLAG @nchia @Andre @surferistic I think "Freedom of Thought" is superfluous. How can you have real thought without freedom?
@Horatio @SLAG @nchia @Andre @surferistic I think that redundant implies that both words mean the same thing. By superfluous, I meant that using the word "freedom" did not add any additional meaning because thought without freedom is not thought :)
2/2
Redundancy:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redundant
We are speaking the same language B.
Rock on.
Of course,
I remember laughing like crazy with the gun going off inside the car, accidentally.
And, "Are you ok?"
I saw this when I was eight years old in the movies.
Not kidding you at all.
My friend's eccentric aunt brought me and my friend's bros.
R rated.
Race Through The Jungle, Papillon, 1973:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTLFSIr_6Lk
We went because we were Great Escape McQueen fans.
This movie changed my entire way of thinking after that.
Kinda like seeing The Exorcist around the same time.
Then?
At the age of 11?
Gator, 1976:
Shaky Puddin'!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zTTYTMkhhE
I was like WTF?
And that was the sequel to White Lighting.
We saw that one too.
It's the Afro.
On an EAGLE.
What?
Is this the early 70's or something!?
C'mon man!
@SLAG @nchia @Bryan @surferistic @justhuman
You are doing very good work and are a highly valued member of this community.